tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955388713581848615.post771170470550012325..comments2024-03-14T08:08:39.968+08:00Comments on The Shroud of Turin: My review of "The Keramion, Lost and Found: A Journey to the Face of God" (2016) by Philip E. DayvaultStephen E. Joneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16183223752386599799noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955388713581848615.post-16785460190796029912020-09-06T19:24:17.971+08:002020-09-06T19:24:17.971+08:00Winona B.
>Dayvault's book is on sale toda...Winona B.<br /><br />>Dayvault's book is on sale today for $2.99. The description of the volume reminded me of Ken Brown's notorious work, so I searched 'Keramion ISA Tile' and found your blog, which is very interesting and informative. And it's free! Thank you, Stephen.<br /><br />Thanks. I'm glad I saved you $2.99. When I Googled, "Dayvault Keramion review" my review is second, so I hope I have saved others from buying Dayvault's not merely bad but also <i>dishonest</i> book!<br /><br />Stephen E. JonesStephen E. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16183223752386599799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955388713581848615.post-18744342391323249572020-09-03T23:03:54.138+08:002020-09-03T23:03:54.138+08:00Dayvault's book is on sale today for $2.99. Th...Dayvault's book is on sale today for $2.99. The description of the volume reminded me of Ken Brown's notorious work, so I searched 'Keramion ISA Tile' and found your blog, which is very interesting and informative. And it's free! Thank you, Stephen.Winona B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955388713581848615.post-31558170704274868562016-04-28T00:01:14.113+08:002016-04-28T00:01:14.113+08:00Anonymous
>I was seriously considering buying ...Anonymous<br /><br />>I was seriously considering buying Dayvault's book. I read what you write and realize that I would just have thrown away my hard-earned money !<br /><br />In respect of its main claim: that a mosaic tile which is the earliest known example of a copy of the Image of Edessa/Shroud face, just happens to be THE Keramion, a tile bearing the image of Jesus' face, which disappeared from Constantinople in 1204; you would indeed have wasted your money.<br /><br />What is the likelihood that a relic which was looted from Constantinople in 1204, would end up in a wall in a house in Edessa, which has been <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Edessa" rel="nofollow">continuously under Muslim control since 1144</a>, and where all images of Jesus were ruthlessly destroyed? Zero!<br /><br />It is a worry that Dayvault was an FBI agent. In this book he breaks what must be one of the first principles of investigation: don't become so fixated on one hypothesis which you want to be true that you lose touch with reality and ignore all the evidence against your hypothesis.<br /><br />I really struggle to understand how Dayvault could go to Sanliurfa, then to the Western end of the Citadel, look at the high wall surmounted by fortifications and call it a GATE! I can only charitably assume that Dayvault is massively deluded in this matter, instead of the more obvious alternative. <br /><br />I wholeheartedly agree with the first customer review of the book on Amazon.com with:<br /><br />-------------------------<br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Keramion-Lost-Found-Journey-Morgan/dp/1630476420" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Keramion-Lost-Found-Journey-Morgan/dp/1630476420</a><br />1.0 out of 5 stars<br />Repetitive and lacking a convincing argument<br />By The Wolf on April 4, 2016 ...<br />Very very very very repetitive...at one-third of the way through the book, he was still saying he was going to explain big things...the book could have been a long essay, perhaps...except he uses many words to indicate the uncertainty of his information. Words like: supposedly, according to legend, it is believed/thought, traditionally...many words that a scholar would never use...unless he did not believe his own conjectures. No new info in the first third of the book...just promises of something to come. And at times he jumps around so much the book is incoherent. I have read many good books on the shroud. This one is a waste of money and time. It does not deserve even one star.<br />-------------------------<br /><br />There is a HUGE amount of irrelevant padding in the book. It's as though Dayvault had to make it a ~300 page book to get it published.<br /><br />>Thank you so much Stephen !<br /><br />You're welcome. I am pleased to see that a Google search of "Keramion Lost Found review" (without the quotes) brings up my above blog review. <br /><br />I cannot understand how Russ Breault could give it 5 stars in his Amazon.com review. But then again, Breault's review says NOTHING about Dayvault's central thesis, that this Sanliurfa mosaic is THE Keramion. So it is a `damning with faint (albeit 5-star) praise'!<br /><br />Dayvault's book is an EMBARRASSMENT to sindonology and deserves to fail.<br /><br />Stephen E. Jones<br />----------------------------------<br />MY POLICIES Comments are moderated. Those I consider off-topic, offensive or sub-standard will not appear. Except that comments under my latest post can be on any Shroud-related topic without being off-topic. I normally allow only one comment per individual under each one of my posts.Stephen E. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16183223752386599799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8955388713581848615.post-61377895431723358552016-04-27T17:50:03.453+08:002016-04-27T17:50:03.453+08:00I was seriously considering buying Dayvault's ...I was seriously considering buying Dayvault's book. I read what you write and realize that I would just have thrown away my hard-earned money !<br />Thank you so much Stephen !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com